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From: Sergey Matveev <stargrave@stargrave•org>
To: nncp-devel@lists.cypherpunks.su
Subject: Re: HF modem support
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 13:42:03 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <abqBex8dmSfub7Ux@stargrave.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3b30163-d9da-49dc-b4c4-4fd103a4de82@riseup.net>
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*** Rafael Diniz [2026-03-17 23:53]:
>The first package of NNCP protocol will take 65280 bytes? I can see there is
>some padding involved.
Yes, it pads it, to hide amount of packets available in queue.
>Is there any sensible approach to reduce this, without completely breaking
>the security (we're using UUCP, so anything better than nothing is better
>already).
In general it is just a *relatively* easy way to give at least some
privacy (metadata security). I think it is ok to optionally disable it,
if we deal with links where even 64KiB is too much. Only the number of
packets in a queue is revealed, that I guess is acceptable for most users.
Actually NNCP packets in general are not very lightweight. Each packet
contains "path" field that always consumes 255 bytes. Not too friendly
to very low-bandwidth links. NNCP initially was created even without
online connections support at all: completely aimed for floppynet-like
use-cases.
>I'm hammering a bit the code, but better I understand a bit the protocol
>before I do something very wrong. Which is a good reference to start with?
The whole documentation is available in doc/nncp.info, doc/nncp.html
(the same as website). No additional materials about its details exist.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-18 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-12 23:30 Greetings Rafael Diniz
2026-03-13 1:13 ` Greetings John Goerzen
2026-03-13 1:51 ` Greetings Rafael Diniz
2026-03-13 2:25 ` Greetings John Goerzen
2026-03-13 10:58 ` Greetings Rafael Diniz
2026-03-15 8:23 ` HF modem support Sergey Matveev
2026-03-16 2:13 ` Rafael Diniz
2026-03-17 23:53 ` Rafael Diniz
2026-03-18 0:32 ` Rafael Diniz
2026-03-18 10:45 ` Sergey Matveev
2026-03-18 12:52 ` Rafael Diniz
2026-03-18 10:42 ` Sergey Matveev [this message]
2026-03-18 12:56 ` Rafael Diniz
2026-03-18 10:26 ` Sergey Matveev